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goldvermilion87 ([personal profile] goldvermilion87) wrote2011-04-12 04:05 am

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


Just reading some screencaps of twitter that [livejournal.com profile] princealia kindly took and shared with me.  They are in response to this quotation from Mark Gatiss "Steve wanted to do the twisted love story [A Scandal in Bohemia],"  :

so PLEASE don't write that in.  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.  I've admired your interpretation of Sherlock but you're wrong this time

I know there's almost no chance of you reading this BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SHERLOCK WAS NOT IN LOVE WITH IRENE ADLER

if you wrote it so that he is you will have a LOT of angry fans.  Series 1 was amazing, but it would ruin Series 2

I agree with @microgabs.  Read A Scandal in Bohemia.  HOLMES WAS NOT IN LOVE WITH ADLER

You're probably getting this a lot, but the 'twisted love story' between Holmes and Adler never existed;  He simply admired her

I AM LAUGHING MY HEAD OFF AT MY COMPUTER!!!!

(And also feeling mildly sorry for Moffat... though he did choose to have a twitter account...)

And I only have two things to say.

1. If you really think Moffat is a genius, trust that he will use the talents and experience, that you, the random fan who thinks Benedict Cumberbatch is hot may just possibly not have, to make a great Series 2.  [Since when did thinking Cumberbatch was hot make us film critics/producers/writers/directors?  Oh, it doesn't?  Really?]

2. Irene Adler was once in love with the King of Bohemia, and they got a picture taken together that was "compromising" and then he ditched her because he was sort of a jerk, and now he wants to marry a princess whose family cares if he messed around with women or not, and Irene is holding this picture over his  head as blackmail, but as it turns out, she wants to marry her solicitor, Charles Norton.

Twisted love story, anyone?

Also, still giggling over the  twitter.  If I actually knew how to use twitter, I would probably waste lots of time snarfling over it.  Good thing I don't.  :-)
 

ADDITION:

Wasn't Moffat the one on the audio commentary who was MOST adamant that Sherlock admired Irene, rather than loved her?  I think he was, and then Gatiss was a little... eh, maybe he really LOVED Irene... but he could only love her because she was unattainable. 

I'm too lazy to check, but I seem to recall that.

[identity profile] princealia.livejournal.com 2011-04-12 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SHERLOCK WAS NOT IN LOVE WITH IRENE ADLER

This is my favorite my thing because really - like Moffat doesn't know that shit. People are telling him how the original story goes and yet they're assuming the episode is going to take a completely different turn when they haven't even seen it just off based off the words "twisted love story" and a fanon interpretation. Just...oh my God, do you hear how ridiculous you sound right now? For people who've read the story, they sure aren't sounding like it right now.

[identity profile] goldvermilion87.livejournal.com 2011-04-12 10:35 am (UTC)(link)
Haha!

This is the problem with getting involved in online fandom. You come across all the stupidity that you wouldnn't if you just kept your enthusiasm to yourself. :-P


*snrk*

[identity profile] gracious-anne.livejournal.com 2011-04-12 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. It's like they haven't noticed that there's an Irene Adler in the Sherlock Holmes film. Or noticed that she has been the one and only romance lead we've had for decades, and we love the mystery of it. (Just me? okay then) Or noticed that for all the modernization of Moffat's Sherlock, he's more "canon" than the films. And he's been stealing details left and right from other original stories that are not in the original story they are adapting.

I'm entirely confused as to why it "would ruin season 2"
they have no idea where he's going with it.
Half the fandom slashes Sherlock and John anyway, so any heterosexual relationship is going to be looked down on anyway.

[identity profile] goldvermilion87.livejournal.com 2011-04-12 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I really like the 2009 film, but HATE the Adler subplot. I just don't think Sherlock Holmes should be in a romantic relationship. (Or rather, be still slightly pining because his girlfriend dumped him.) In fact, I think that slash is not hard to justify from the 2009 films in part because they made Holmes a being interested in sex. Then his sort of obsessive clinginess to Watson, which i think is mostly because he's selfish and wants Watson always there at his beck and call, COULD have a sexual element to it. (again...I don't think that it does, but the Irene subplot makes it harder for me to argue my sided of it.) So frankly, if Sherlock was really in love with Irene, I'd be irritated... though I trust that Moffat knows what he's doing, and that he could sell it to me.

And I do think it's partly a slash fangirl reaction. I saw some who honestly seem to hope/think that that Sherlock and John will ACTUALLY get together in Series 2, which I think is absurd, no matter how much subtext you think you see... If John likes women AND Sherlock likes women... well then the Sherlock is gay and John is bisexual but doens't know it yet argument dies.

*snrk*

[identity profile] gracious-anne.livejournal.com 2011-04-12 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
all of that. I hated the Irene subplot. It just didn't fit with all the Sherlock clinging to Watson and the far better Mary and Sherlock dynamic.

I'm sure they could have plugged in Moriarty in there without a woman in the mix, but hey, somebody would have been mad at them more for there not being a woman for Sherlock or more women in general in the film.

And for those who thought/think Sherlock and John could get together in the season...no. They make jokes and address the issue of the gay subtext one could see in the original stories if you were looking for it, but I don't see how they could not address with one of the writers being gay.

Yeah...it's fine to speculate and wonder but at the end of the day, it's just an adaptation. Of course not everyone is going to be happy, but for only three one-and-half-hour episodes to have created such solid version of Sherlock has to be given some credit.

Gonnna go read some angrybeige comics now...gotta shake off the need to rant.


[identity profile] goldvermilion87.livejournal.com 2011-04-12 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that by addressing the issue up front, they really took away any question of whether it's John/Sherlock. The answer is No. Because John's not interested in Sherlock, and Sherlock's just not interested.

And the jokes are there, but, for example that little exchange at the end ("I'm glad no one saw that"), seems to be there because they've hashed it out, and can joke about it. It's not awkward UST, it's two guys diffusing the awkwardness of a stressful situation by joking about something they can both laugh at...

I really don't see how it could be any clearer...

*sigh*

[identity profile] gracious-anne.livejournal.com 2011-04-12 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. It's not 'subtext' it's oh my gosh, are you okay because you just had a BOMB strapped to your chest.

[identity profile] goldvermilion87.livejournal.com 2011-04-12 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess that's what it is--It's not subtext. It's RIGHT THERE. And the RIGHT THERE answer is that THEY AREN'T DOING THAT

[identity profile] literatech0221.livejournal.com 2011-04-12 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Digital Spy reports that Mark Gatiss will write The Hound of the Baskervilles, Stephen Moffatt will write Scandal in Bohemia and Steve? Thompson will do The Final Problem.

[identity profile] goldvermilion87.livejournal.com 2011-04-12 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. That's why Moffat is getting all the SCAN related backlash from the fans. :-)