I had heard pretty much all the jokes in promos, and just SO MANY FEELINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!! FEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
(I literally burst out laughing at the whole "you don't have mirrors in this house" conversation)
I am also not sure what they're going for with Joan.
That being said, it had very cute moments -- especially the end. Right now The Mentalist is far an away my American SH adaptation, but I'll be watching Elementary for sure.
See, I didn't see any promos but I saw the pilot a month ago, so this is my second time watching it after having conversations with other people about it. It's far less problematic than Sherlock has been in six episodes, that's for sure :P
Oh gosh, I find Joan so REFRESHING. It's nice to not watch Watson get used as a punching bag and then quietly put up with this eccentric figure because they're ~curious~. She calls him out on his behavior and he adjusts accordingly, which is a lot nicer than this over the top belittle-you-as-fast-as-possible-so-you-feel-dumb technique he's picked up in recent adaptations. They'll grow as characters and friends, but they won't be starting off on radically uneven terms, which will eliminate that struggle.
I am also not sure what they're going for with Joan.
she was certainly very restrained. Cool, closed off. She only became human there at the end: "Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it isn't totally awesome." Hee, liked that line :-) And loved SH's response: predicting the outcome based on the intense statistical nature of the game - so true!
So I am actually looking forward to more eps to watch Joan Watson develop. I think it's better when the characters aren't so well-established and stereotypical.
As for Sherlock's character, the "Sherlock-ness" seems to have been boiled down to his ability to make quick deductions based on piecing together scraps of info. Nothing else about him felt like Sherlock Holmes of any incarnation.
For me the most disappointing part was how typical the show was directed and plotted - felt and looked exactly like every other crime show ever. I think one of BBC!Sherlock's standout features is the creativity and beauty of the direction - now, if only they would apply that to the writing!
The writing of Elementary was competent - fewer gaping plot holes; but uninspired. Why are you writing Sherlock? Be inspired! Else why re-hash what is so well-worn?
Also, while I don't think it's at ALL like Sherlock, I felt like there was a bit of NOTSHERLOCKPROMISEPROMISEPROMISE angst. But I freely admit that it could have all been in my mind.
...really? I literally didn't get a drop of Sherlock anywhere in this. The fans have tried to pull some out, but that's because they don't know anything about the source material and think Sherlock is an accurate and faithful version of the canon. They have no idea what the word 'adaptation' means.
I'm also not feeling the need to compare it to Sherlock? Like, I don't feel going in to this version that I need to compare it because they're both modern. I'm taking it on its own merit because it's only fair. No one was scrutinizing Sherlock against how close it was to the Rathbone films it so freely references and used as a model of the series, so I'm not even bringing Sherlock in to this because I feel it's irrelevant in talking about the show itself.
Agreed -- which is why I found the angst annoying, because it's unnecessary (And silly... How many times has SH been adapted? seriously?) But I think I am probably reading in angst because I've been hearing NOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY'RE STEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG for the past six months...
Dear CBS, Elementary was disappointing but not hopeless. Also, I like the way you took the Sherlock music and set it an octave or so lower. I hardly recognized it."
:-) I'm still quite ready to like it. BUT MILLER'S HOLMES WILL NEVER SURPASS BAKER'S! :-D (Besides Miller doesn't wear a three piece suit. Baker does.)
No. I like JLM, but it just didn't look all that interesting to me. And when I'm already watching 12 shows, a show has to look REALLY REALLY interesting to be added to the list!
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Date: 2012-09-28 03:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-09-28 03:17 am (UTC)(I literally burst out laughing at the whole "you don't have mirrors in this house" conversation)
I am also not sure what they're going for with Joan.
That being said, it had very cute moments -- especially the end. Right now The Mentalist is far an away my American SH adaptation, but I'll be watching Elementary for sure.
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Date: 2012-09-28 03:22 am (UTC)Oh gosh, I find Joan so REFRESHING. It's nice to not watch Watson get used as a punching bag and then quietly put up with this eccentric figure because they're ~curious~. She calls him out on his behavior and he adjusts accordingly, which is a lot nicer than this over the top belittle-you-as-fast-as-possible-so-you-feel-dumb technique he's picked up in recent adaptations. They'll grow as characters and friends, but they won't be starting off on radically uneven terms, which will eliminate that struggle.
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Date: 2012-09-28 03:25 am (UTC)(And you know that I think Sherlock is a brilliant work of art -- I don't expect so much from a typical 13/26 episode TV series.)
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Date: 2012-09-28 07:00 pm (UTC)she was certainly very restrained. Cool, closed off. She only became human there at the end: "Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it isn't totally awesome." Hee, liked that line :-) And loved SH's response: predicting the outcome based on the intense statistical nature of the game - so true!
So I am actually looking forward to more eps to watch Joan Watson develop. I think it's better when the characters aren't so well-established and stereotypical.
As for Sherlock's character, the "Sherlock-ness" seems to have been boiled down to his ability to make quick deductions based on piecing together scraps of info. Nothing else about him felt like Sherlock Holmes of any incarnation.
For me the most disappointing part was how typical the show was directed and plotted - felt and looked exactly like every other crime show ever. I think one of BBC!Sherlock's standout features is the creativity and beauty of the direction - now, if only they would apply that to the writing!
The writing of Elementary was competent - fewer gaping plot holes; but uninspired. Why are you writing Sherlock? Be inspired! Else why re-hash what is so well-worn?
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Date: 2012-09-28 03:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-09-28 03:27 am (UTC)I'm also not feeling the need to compare it to Sherlock? Like, I don't feel going in to this version that I need to compare it because they're both modern. I'm taking it on its own merit because it's only fair. No one was scrutinizing Sherlock against how close it was to the Rathbone films it so freely references and used as a model of the series, so I'm not even bringing Sherlock in to this because I feel it's irrelevant in talking about the show itself.
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Date: 2012-09-28 03:30 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-09-28 03:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-09-28 03:37 am (UTC)Did you watch it?
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Date: 2012-09-28 03:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-09-28 03:45 am (UTC)I don't think you're missing too much. I'm a crime drama junkie, but more specifically a Holmesian adaptation junkie. So I had to add it.
I HOPE THE MENTALIST IS ON YOUR LIST, THOUGH!
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Date: 2012-09-28 01:46 pm (UTC)*shuffles nervously*